Update on the electrical.

"mkbruin, Atlas VP" (mkbruin)
02/05/2016 at 10:07 • Filed to: None

I’m still pissed.

DISCUSSION (25)

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 10:14

Did it just rub the coating off on that metal edge? Then got itself warm?

Nibby > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 10:19

64Mali > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 10:24

How the hell was that wired.

OPPOsaurus WRX > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 10:36

i’d request my money back from the inspection. I doubt u’ll get him to pay for the repairs but that guy sucked

450X_FTW > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 10:46

Electricity has a funny way of teaching you. Few weeks ago, it taught me that just because an outlet receptacle and a switch are next to each other does NOT mean they are on the same breaker

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > OPPOsaurus WRX
02/05/2016 at 10:47

There’s only so much an inspector can do though, things like electrical and plumbing can only be tested to a point. It’s not like he can see through walls. I don’t know the specifics of how easy this was to access so maybe he should have caught it, but usually plumbing and electrical are pretty hard to ensure are 100% to code during inspections

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 10:49

Regarding the inspection: if the wire was readily in view and looked the way that it did in the first pic, I totally agree that the inspectors need to be held accountable.

But. If not, then I don’t know if you reall have a case. I’ve purchased a lot of properties, and inspectors never open any of the light switches to see how they’re wired nor do they inspect hidden or obscured wiring.

It's weird that it chafed hard enough to eat through the insulation. Probably home handy-man install.

OPPOsaurus WRX > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
02/05/2016 at 10:54

the giveaway on that should have been that the wire was just hanging there and not stapled up. I looked at a house that had a messed up fridge and the guy wouldn;t move the fridge to see if there was any water damage even though there was obviously some bad shit going on. they are a joke, especially for anyone who has the slightest clue of whats in a house

OPPOsaurus WRX > 450X_FTW
02/05/2016 at 10:57

holy crap, i was reaching for a switch with no outlet cover and gtrabbed one of the screws holding a wire in. GOODFUCKINGMORNINGBUDDY!!!!!!!

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > OPPOsaurus WRX
02/05/2016 at 10:58

Yea, if that’s how it looks as soon as you open the closet he should have noticed that. I wasn’t sure if that’s what he found after tearing out some drywall or if that was just in the closet or what not. I was happy with the inspector for our house, there hasn’t been a single issue so far that we didn’t know about ahead of time. (knock on wood)

BigBlock440 > 450X_FTW
02/05/2016 at 11:02

I don’t even bother turning the breaker off first, just hit it with a screwdriver and you’ll be sure you’ve got the right one.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 11:03

I just read your other responses on the ungrounded dimmer switches.

Guess who just replaced 2 switches in his house and found out 3 ungrounded ones? (one was a double switch to control the ceiling fan).

Also fun, the jack-holes labeled the breaker box wrong.

You’re damn right I got zapped.

You’re also damn right I wanted to kill the people I bought the house from.

200k for an early 70's house in Michigan is a good chunk of change.

OPPOsaurus WRX > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
02/05/2016 at 11:12

meanwhile your kitchen ceiling just collapsed

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > OPPOsaurus WRX
02/05/2016 at 11:25

Haha...man you must have had one hell of a messed up inspection. You seem just a bit bitter

450X_FTW > BigBlock440
02/05/2016 at 11:25

I like to live dangerously, but not THAT dangerous

450X_FTW > OPPOsaurus WRX
02/05/2016 at 11:26

I was installing a dimmer switch and used a screwdriver to pry against the receptacle to move the switch, That made quite the arc

BigBlock440 > 450X_FTW
02/05/2016 at 11:31

You’re insulated by the handle, and your “learning experience” kind of validated my lazy method. Greatly reduces those types of instances. 120's NBD, I don’t mess around with 220+ though.

450X_FTW > BigBlock440
02/05/2016 at 11:33

Yeah still don’t trust it. I only passed EE class thanks to the curve.

BigBlock440 > 450X_FTW
02/05/2016 at 11:45

I never had to take an EE class, so that’s probably why it doesn’t bother me. I actively avoided anything to do with electricity, but they still got me with one of the physics courses. Luckily I was able to block that part out, so I can still be oblivious unless I want to do anything not run-of-the-mill. Then I have to look stuff up and think again.

Enough times of dealing with unlabeled circuit brakers and circuits on unexpected switches, I kind of stopped even trying to figure it out before hand if I don’t already know which one it is.

450X_FTW > BigBlock440
02/05/2016 at 11:49

Automotive wiring, i’m fine with. It’s home wiring I fail at. For me it’s because I’m very mechanical, I have to see it moving or be able to see the path of movement. Can’t do that with electricity, at least not for me.

shop-teacher > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 11:51

That is unacceptable. You may want to consider going after the inspector.

BigBlock440 > 450X_FTW
02/05/2016 at 12:08

I agree, electricity is like black magic. Which is why me method to finding breakers would make an actual electrician cringe but doesn’t bother me. I have a basic understanding and know there are rules to how the electrons move, but not enough that I can do much without looking it up. House wiring is pretty standard though, you’ve only got like 2 gauges and need to know if you’re running a 2-wire or 3-wire. Hard to use the wrong stuff, so mostly the only place to mess up is in the connections, and those are mechanical in nature and don’t need to be an EE to figure out. Automotive wiring on the other hand, that’s something I don’t really ever do. It’s a lot easier to use the wrong gauge, size fuse, etc. if you don’t know what you’re doing there in my opinion.

RallyWrench > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 12:19

Jesus, that’s spooky. Glad it didn’t do more damage.

450X_FTW > BigBlock440
02/05/2016 at 13:00

Funny my brother in law is the same way. He’s an industrial electrician and cannot do automotive electric work. I’m the opposite

BorkBorkBjork > mkbruin, Atlas VP
02/05/2016 at 14:11

That is terrifying. I would go after the home inspector, maybe even the previous owner or builder. There no way that is up to code. Is all that wiring loose, not in a conduit?